I highly recommend the Fox Hollow, and in particular, the Somerley room to all couples looking for a venue! WOW. The hotel is marvelous! I'm happy to say I had a wonderful wedding at the Fox Hollow. Ou My husband and I enjoyed our wedding in fox hollow. 7725 Jericho Turnpike. We had to eventually ask our questions to another banquet manager. Everyone loved our venue and didn't want our wedding to end. My event was booked two years in advance on a holiday weekend. The venue is maintained well, and it offers many photo opportunities. A definite selling point for us booking the venue was the hotel being so close. The bartenders had some issues with guests, but we worked it out quickly especially because our special Middletons was behind the bar. The planning experience with them was seamless and all of my emails were answered in a timely manner. The venue is absolutely gorgeous and the Fox Hollow team was amazing to work with. I got married at this venue on 12/12/21 and I could not be happier with the decision we made. Highly recommended!! Fox Hollow did a beautiful job making my wedding day a dream come true! Aside from that they were great to work with, maybe you just need to be more specific! They were great! They both went above and beyond to make sure my husband and I always had what we needed and made the night flow seamlessly. Everything was decorated as we asked. We give the Somerley at Fox Hollow our highest recommendation--we are so thrilled we chose Fox Hollow as the place to host our wedding ceremony and reception! The guests loved that the hotel was onsite, especially the guests with children. The venue, food, and service is amazing! The Somerley has a private entrance and private bathrooms so we felt like the only ones there! the matre d I didnt see the whole night except for when he was trying to get my new husband out of the cocktail hour and then at the end of the night when he probably wanted his tip. I had my wedding at the Fox Hollow in the Winter Garden room on 4/23/21. If I could get married again and again I'd pick Fox Hollow every single time!! Our guests were raving about both! What kind of indoor/outdoor options are available at The Somerley for wedding events? We love to entertain and to make sure our guests are having a great time. The second reason I am only giving them 4 stars is pretty big, and I think says a lot about their business. On more than one occasion I felt like I wasn't really a priority. The Somerley was absolutely exquisite! I would've given them five stars if not for our banquet manager, Jessica. My bridal attendant was wonderful. Browse Venue prices, photos and 11 reviews, with a rating of 3.0 out of 5 Get pampered before your walk down the aisle with en-suite spa services from Red Door Spa. Where do I even begin? Our guests are still raving 6 months later about how beautiful the rooms were and how delicious the food was! He was completely in control of everything. Their bridal suites are beautiful to use for your getting ready wedding photos. While Fox Hollow has many great outdoor locations, they have really beautiful indoor locations to take your fun bridal party photos, formal family portraits as well as creative images of your and your husband on your wedding day. It was the most amazing day for so many reason, but Fox Hollow made it so easy to enjoy ourselves and never miss anything! Meals start at $75 per person, and the . We loved that our guests could go off to the side and hang out and still not really be removed from the main event. The food was so so delicious! d a mini rehearsal 45 minutes before, but only in the bridal suite. She went up to the bridal suite and got my flats and even assisted me out of my heels and it was great! They also loved the TVs and projectors int he room. Thank you, Fox Hollow! My bridal attendant always seemed to have a Our wedding is in September (coming up) at the Fox Hollow and we are so excited about it. Our date is September 27th 2013 (I may not have changed my estimated knot date yet). You are in excellent hands!! Hello, this is a question for anyone that has booked and had their wedding at the Somerley at Fox Hollow in Woodbury recently so as to have had a similar experience with their chart they give you. Will be back to celebrate our 1 year anniversary in their restaurant called Volpe. I loved the option also to stay overnight at the hotel. But due to circumstance, we felt it was absolutely necessary to write a review for Everything was exquisite at our recent wedding in the Garden Terrace room. It's an updated, beautiful room with a fireplace, glass ceilings, beautiful 'wall sculpture' (that what my husband called it). Set apart from the Fox Hollow manor, The Somerley is the best in Long Island wedding venues. It is all thanks to the Fox Hollow!! They made the event and the details leading up to the wedding absolutely perfect! Additionally, there were some issues with dinner orders being wrong and plates not being served but our guests were gracious and many did not point out those mistakes until after the party. Email: info@thesomerley.com. I didn't care for my party coordinator Jessica Levy. When looking for a professional wedding photographer to photograph your wedding at The Somerley at Fox Hollow, you have to make sure they know all everything there is to know about your venue and all of the best locations to use to take the best photos on your big day. Call Us 516-802-7500 Send us an email Come over 7725 Jericho Turnpike, Woodbury, NY 11797 USA. Right there all night long, I wanted for nothing. The two rooms he Fox Hollow Review We were allowed to take pictures during our first look and it helped us out a lot prior to the wedding so we could enjoy our cocktail hour. I went up the the bridal suite and Anna approached me, calmly and so thoughtfully and handed me tissues and spoke to me very softly. I can say with confidence that no guest left my wedding hungry or having a bad time. The banquet manager is never available (thats you Mike), the receptionists are down-right witches, the menu coordinator cant do her job, the staff has no idea whats going on, and it seems like everyone that picks up the phone has the habit of hanging up after 3 seconds. I felt like I was constantly re-explaining who I was each time I called. Lindenhurst, New York 11757 Then during your reception, we will take many candid images of your grand entrance, first dance as husband and wife, your best man & maid of honor speeches, cake cutting ceremony, garter & bouquet toss, and parent dances. Most people were stuffed from all the food they had at the cocktail hour (including a homemade mozzarella station). Instead they made me feel like I was the cheap insignificant wedding & they had more important events to focus on. This means we know all of the great locations to use to create timeless wedding photos on your big day. After the wedding was over the party didn't stop we moved right over to the Inn at Fox Hollow and partied the night away. They were so extremely attentive and Claudia and Donna were truly incredible! This gallery of images is from a recent wedding we photographed at The Somerley at Fox Hollow. The Somerley is a destination wedding venue located on the Gold Coast of Long Island. This meant we did not see the actual venue where the ceremony would be, and therefore the first bridesmaid didn't go down far enough. n" patrons. The day of the wedding my bridal attendant and maitre d were both AWESOME. All in all, the Fox Hollow was great and we loved it! Our beautiful Georgian Stately Home on the Hampshire/Dorset border is licensed for ceremonies and receptions of up to 140 people, with a range of beautiful spaces available for your wedding celebration. I'd do it all over again if we could have them! They keep track of everything and maintain the organization (which is good for me because I am insane about being organized!) I was less specific about my needs and they threw a great wedding, but less personal than I would have wanted. FOOD: absolutely incredible!! This venue offers a variety of services to help your day run smoothly. He kept us up to speed all night long. My husband and I have been to over 40 weddings together and I don't remember ever being an another venue that we were ever checked on. Our wedding turned out beautiful! Even with my bad experience with Jessica I still rate fox hollow a 5/5 due to the other staff. They helped us every step of the way, from finding vendors to crafting our wedding day to making sure everything went off without a hitch. They both went above and beyond to make sure my husband and I always had what we needed and made the night flow seamlessly. I had scheduled numerous venues for my fianc and me to visit, and when it came to Fox Hollow we almost missed/ canceled the appointment due to traffic. We were obviously being "sold" so I was nervous making a decision without giving myself at least an hour to think about it. The Somerley Fox Hollow seating chart confusion!! Furthermore, when I noticed that there were strangers looming near the bar in our party room I was yet again unable to find my bridal attendant and/or banquet manager so I had to take it upon myself to ask them to leave. I can't rave enough about it!! Everything was timed perfectly! They layout of the Somerley is private, spacious, stylish and perfectly engineered for a wedding. Everybody went above and beyond. I love how the LED lights light up the stone wall, it lights up various colors that give your nighttime wedding photos at Fox Hollow a creative and different look. She was patient and on top of her game all night. This place is perfect!! It's the perfect venue for a winter wedding. Then I even heard from some of our guests that at dinner, the waitstaff was not even part of the regular staff and they were just filling in, so they were not at all informed about the menu or event details. They reply back to my e-mails promptly and are very friendly and accommodating. I think ultimately you have to be a pain to make sure they take you seriously but they also know what they are doing so you have to trust them a bit too. You just need to see it for yourself. Daytime rentals must be finished by 6pm. I'm not sure what happened here, because I've always heard great things about this place. We had an amazing time. The planning experience with them was seamless and all of my emails were answered Fox Hollow actually made all of our wedding dreams a reality! They had every reason to believe they would be able to re-book the date. They were with us and made sure everything went smoothly. Furthermore, I purchased some really pricey lanterns that were used to line the aisle and never received them back after the wedding despite calling to inquire about them. Our day of Bridal Attendant was Victoria and we can not praise her enough. The hotel next door had beautiful rooms and great service. The food I ate was delicious but I would not want James anywhere near my wedding. The Somerley is on the eight-acre Fox Hollow estate near the Gold Coast of Long Island. ok this room, as that was the only complaint I had--the guests needed additional waitresses. From evocative, timeless design to award-winning catering, your choice of venues guarantees a unparalleled occasion. After my husband and I decided on the Fox Hollow (we reserved the Garden Terrace room), we researched on multiple websites to find the top reviewed ma My husband and I were BEYOND THRILLED with "The Fox". the bar was great and the bartender even stayed longer to keep us going all night !!! I would definitely recommend staying there after your wedding! Our team of professional Long Island wedding photographers has photographed many weddings at this beautiful catering hall. Re: Fox Hollow: The Somerley . See more ideas about wedding, unique settings, long island wedding. The menu is top notch In the wedding and events business, it is so easy for brides and grooms to become forgotten or a faceless entity, but Josh and Anna made us feel like we were the only two in the world who mattered. Otherwise the whole night was perfect! All and all it was not a bad venue but a bride does not want to feel that her venue is trying to get as much money out of her as possible. Our Maitre D Arthur was spectacular. Fox Hollow Catering, Hotel & Restaurant is an elegant wedding and event venue located in Woodbury, NY. We went over the menu selection and other details with her and supplied our requests for our matre d and bridal attendant for our wedding. I was told it was a "crap shoot" and waiting could result in getting nothing at all. Web: Visit Website. The room we used, winter garden pavilion, was very beautiful, food was good and staff relatively organized. Also, we were promised an outdoor piece of the cocktail hour and reception, but when everything got going, it was only indoor with no explanation (it wasn't raining or cold). With taxes and gratuity factored in, the grand total was $22,537 for 150 guests. If we were to get married all over again, I would still book the Somerley without a doubt in my mind. While we may have been more accepting of some small mistakes like these, there were just too many mishaps to outright ignore them. My bridal attendant may have been new so she did not bustle my dress correctly, then causing my dress to be sticking out during my entrance and the da Our wedding was last weekend at the Fox Hollow Somerley. During the reception I often had trouble finding my bridal attendant and had to make trips to the front desk on three separate occasions to ask the receptionist to page her so that I could have access to the bridal suite and bathroom. How much is Fox Hollow wedding? A friend of mine was doing all the preparations before the ceremony and reception and he was on point with helping and getting anything and everything together according to where or how we wanted it, kept us on track the whole night and our bridal attendant was the sweetest ever, always by me and my husbands side and never empty handed- we always had a drink! The best part was that our guests RAVED about how much fun they had. The Somerley room is stunning and unlike any other wedding venue I have been to. (I thought theyre really only supposed to be with you?) Distinguished among Long Island event venues, the gathering spaces created by Scotto Brothers are true standouts in every way. Many people said it was one of the best weddings that they had ever attended! I just had my wedding at the Somerley Room at Fox Hollow and could not be happier with how well everything turned out. They had our wedding party and guests in the right places at the right times and were pleasant and helpful to everyone. nd always made sure we had a drink in hand! It was almost as if we were thinking about them and then they would magically appear to ask if we needed anything! The Filet was cooked to perfection, the Sea-bass was packed with flavor, and the shrimp were delicious! Our guests also had many wonderful things to say about the service and the food. Meagan took care of everything before we even knew we needed it taken care of. It is literally across the street from Fox Hollow. The day/night went without a hitchcompletely perfect. un smoothly and made sure I was well taken care of the entire night. Our maitre d Samir was the greatest! every step of the way. Not only is the place so unique and beautiful, the staff was incredible throughout the whole process. We give the Somerley at Fox Hollow our highest recommendation--we are so thrilled we chose Fox Hollow as the place to host our wedding ceremony and reception! We didn't have to worry about a thing the rest of the night and we were able to enjoy every moment of our wedding! My bridal attendant was amazing and treated me like a queen! The Inn at Fox Hollow is the obvious choice of hotels to use when getting married at Fox Hollow. e reception! dancing on the dance floor). The Somerley. book to 1.5 years later at the wedding they were so helpful every step of the way. Any question I had was thoughtfully answered and my experience with all of their staff members was excellent. I had taken care of every step and detail of my wedding so it was comforting to know that Josh would be able to take care of the reception without me having to delegate tasks (like coordinating with the vendors). My matre d (Arthur) was amazing and ran the night so smoothly. enomenal job, that is simply scratching the surface. Having the hotel on site was so convenient for us and our guests! The room was decorated just the way I wanted it. We had our wedding on Father's Day so we were able to have Fox Hollow was fantastice from start to finish. The year leading up to the wedding was stressful & difficult but the day was PERFECT & totally worth it! They truly made the wedding day perfect. When we photograph your beautiful night-time wedding photos at Fox Hollow we prelight everything which means we are fast and efficient so you and your husband can get back to your reception. When we asked to see the room before discussing money he became extremely annoyed and huffy. They also used black table cloths in the entrance room and their flowers in some rooms where i would have preferred they weren't because they did not go with the decor. The liquor did not stop flowing and I was told by many guests that the bartenders remembered what they were drinking and had it ready for them before they even walked to the bar amazing! a different room for each part of our party. Food was great, both at cocktail hour and th Rehearsal Dinners, Bridal Showers & Parties, Flower Girl Dresses and Ring Bearer Outfits. Our Maitre'D Josh was spot on the entire day of the wedding. The food was amazing and people literally raved about it. We brought it up after the cocktail hour because I was busy taking some photos, saying hi to guests, and attempting to eat something. I grew up close by and once I saw the room, I turned to my fiance (now husband) and said this is it. The grounds are beautiful for taking pictures. They seriously know how to run a wedding. We had peace of mind the day of our wedding as each part of the event was perfectly orchestrated. Anytime I needed her she was right there! He was great. I wanted photos in my heels, but she knew, despite me being stubborn in 30-40 degrees at night that my feet could not take that 4.5-inch heels anymore. We were most pleased that we can make the decis Amazing service, food, atmosphere. I was calling the Fox Hollow during the week, and telling them that we would have less guests than anticipated. The food was great, we got lots of compliments on the cake (Francesco's), and the staff set up all my centerpieces perfectly. Read More Reviewed On 10/19/2016 by Jessica N Spanning four private floors that are customizable to each event, we offer an elegant and flexible venue for weddings and social events. The decorations were GORGEOUS and the food was DELICIOUS. If I had to do it again, I would pick Fox Hollow Somerley room! The Somerleys classic architecture, elegant dcor, and custom catering by the award-winning Scotto Brothers ensure that every Fox Hollow wedding is an unforgettable celebration. We sent the letter the following day and never heard from them. We then headed to the banquet room, which was tastefully decorated. The food was out of this world! He kept everything perfect. They were absolutely great! The cocktail hour, which was done in the Volpe restaurant, was amazing. The brida attendant was phenomonal!!! I fell in love with the Somerley at Fox Hollow from the moment I stepped in the door and was so incredibly fortunate to have been able to have my wedding there. Nobody left hung Beside having well appointed gardens surrounding the property, the Somerley Room was my dream come true. It's bright. They absolutely made my fairytale wedding a reality! If there are extra they are required to give them to you. We can walk there. The Somerley only hosts one wedding at a time, we love taking advantage of the whole grounds, especially the European . We visited the venue 3 times with Bruce. ttentive. We loved how much room our guests had to roam around and feel comfortable. Bruce ended up leaving the Fox Hollow and our wedding got assigned to another banquet manager, Jessica. When we arrived, our placecards and personal touches were all placed exactly as we asked. We would highly recommend the Fox Hollow as well as Josh and Noelia. It kind of made us feel that we have your money we can do what we want. From the start, Bruce C. who broke down everything for us and gave us an end all final price including tax and tip so we'd know exactly how much per person would be. de, groom, parents of the bride & groom and many guests did not get the enjoy the cordials due to not knowing if it was out. The service and food were amazing. outstanding. Civil Union, Commitment Ceremony, Elopement, Interfaith Ceremony, Non-Religious Ceremony, Religious Ceremony, Second Wedding , Vow Renewal Ceremony, Destination Weddings, Food & Catering, Planning, Service Staff. ely rude to my father in law, bridal party, and my self. She came up with me when I needed to use the restroom and even helped make minor alterations to my dress. He was extrem Fox Hollow is truly and incredible venue to have your wedding in. It was almost as if we were thinking about them and then they would magically appear to ask if we needed anything! According to HereComestheGuide.com, Fox Hollow does not charge a rental fee. The Winter Garden is absolutely magical when the lights are dimmed & there are millions of candles everywhere! Even the email wasn't sent on time. They always made sure we had everything we needed and they completely took care of making sure the vendors were all ready to go and our decor was displayed nicely. It's new. We wanted oval tables in the Somerley room which allowed for an aisle which allowed all our guests to mingle together. I was informed by corporate that I could take the $750 or I could continue to wait until they re-booked my day. 917) 569-0145 Prospect Heights 562 Grand Ave. Brooklyn NY 11238 The Bridal attendant and Matre'd never left our side. Samir as well as Carmen, really attended to our every need & made sure the wedding ran smoothly & that everything was beautiful. She took us to the bridal suite after the ceremony to make sure we had some alone time to eat something, and take it all in. The staff was so accommodating and attentive to every detail. Please call to make an appointment to view the space or make a payment. Youre in good hands at the Fox Hollow. First, let me tell you that any venue run by the Scotto Brothers is going to be great. The maitradee consistently checked up on both of us that everything was ok. 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