35 .207 .086 I can add that there is not one single straight line taper for each line weight. 40 0.184 (Will Price), Dickerson standardized his reel seats with a 3/8's inside diameter bore, hence the .375 under the grip and reel seat. Just looking for a taper that accommodates the step down ferrule nicely. I Have commented additionally, if trivially in a private post on the other points. Talk to any of the 'boo boys who used to work at Winston, and they'll tell you Winston tapers are basically straight (I got that straight from Jeff Walker). It was considerably more effortless to use than my colleagues 8'6'' to 9' supposedly #4 carbons. At The Airport. Still own the other and it has a DT6 on it. .248@15 If you want to see the justification for compound tapers look at the design of the Eiffel tower or any electricity pylon. The line was a Scientific Angler's WF7 in their XXD (distance) format. Find great quality fly fishing rods at an affordable price that fits any budget. All measurements were taken over varnish. by cwood 05/08/09 02:51, Post It was normal at the time to fit ferrules to the tip and undercut the butt to fit. 48 .224 .375, I don't know how Banjo arrived at the measurements under the grip and reel seat. (Gary Nicholson), I think most rodmakers wouldn't build a rod to sell that they didn't like, but would make one for a customer that they wouldn't use themselves, I know I have. Stress curves are the only tool I have seen that give you a visual image of exactly what you have changed and the consequences of that action. I haven't tried a WF6 but suspect it'd be about perfect. by wefishcane 05/08/09 02:55, Post It you look at the 8013 it is a 5/6 wt with a tip that's a little stronger than the 7613's but not by much. There seems to be a misunderstanding about the results this yields. It's a 7 wt too but being a little shorter is easier on the arm and shoulder due to the shorter lever arm length. He has two Dickerson 7613 tapers, from 1952 and 1970, that show dimensions for a butt ferrule that would be 14/64 and a tip ferrule of 13/64. Typically it is a heavy tip section combined with a light butt section. The varnish is in good condition. I personally have never been able to use them to describe the characteristics of a taper. It's a two piece, 8 foot five weight. Help from forum members would be welcomed. It's the important half, too, the other one is less important than line weight, I refer you to the basic laws of aerodynamics, this post is already too long! (Jerry Foster), For some applications, like fishing dries from a drifting boat, it could be even a bit short. (John Channer), Well, the #13 Payne ferrules that I've mic'd had a female ferrule internal diameter of .203" and the step-down internal diameter of .1875". 30 .216 .099 This is one of those bio-feedback things you must be self taught IMHO. 5 .096 .244 Dickersons original taper was as Mark stated and a true 5 wt. by Lee Koch 06/12/16 21:18, Post But more relevant and to the point, I bought a single tip Dickerson 7613 from John and he recently provided me with a second tip from pre-embargo cane and original Dickerson hardware, and the action is a dead ringer for the original Dickerson 7613. They will not be using straight tapers, I'm afraid. You can design a flyrod, racing bicycle, airplane or motorcar to do one thing superbly with ease. But if you decide to tell the world that this is therefore the right way to design a fishing rod then I'm going to disagree with you! I've built this one which was posted to the rodmaker's listserv years ago. How would you characterize their casting characteristics? . That's the "raw cane" numbers. The long column to the right of that is what we think the raw cane would have measured, subtracting for varnish, and interpolating between our measurements so as to put everything back on 5-inch stations. As this was my favorite rod, much foul language followed. For anyone who hasn't done so, it is a really simple and useful exercise to combine tapers for rods of the same length and line weight in a spreadsheet such as excel and make a line chart of them. (David Atchison), Didn't Dickerson make his own ferrules and weren't they slightly oversized? I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say about the differences between the two tapers. 30 0.151 166917 Dickerson 8014 8' 5wt. In fact I've just made a new tip for it as the original developed a kink when being cooked to set off the UHU which no amount of ironing will remove. the stated ferrule dimensions always follow from the TIP dimensions, not the butt dimensions. At the Grayling gathering, Bill Harms gave a presentation of Marinaro's approach to rod design. (Bob Norwood). Pt 0 is the butt side of the strips. (Jerry Foster). I assume that he extrapolated those measurements. My question is, as I plan for my next rod, are these the same rod or is there a difference? Halstead. How would this feel? Can't remember which is which without looking in the book, but one is lighter than the other. Click here to directly compare the action of the 5 weight tapers marked with an asterisk ( * ) below. I hope this is for step down ferrule. (Reed Guice), Dickerson used the ferrule sizes in the rod to denote both the ferrule and the number of pieces in the rod. Ephemera, empherma and Ephemerella.. Photos, paintings, written stories and talents. You have a rod with a taper of approximately 0.0028 per inch. Take a virtual tour of our terminal and view our campus map. Except that they are US rated and thus #5's! if you were to use this type of ferrule, you might choose one that has a 13/64ths opening on the top, and a 14/64ths opening on the bottom. DICKERSON 801610 - 8' 3/2 - 5wt- honey colored - medium powerful action trout fishing rod this rod is my favorite 8 foot Dickerson - originals are very rare - incredible power in a true 5w$ 2150us (all 3pc 2tip rods)DICKERSON 7613 - 7'6"- one of my all time favorite 5wts, copied in Dickerson's style can be custom made with tips of four different actions below: DICKERSON 7613 LS - the lightest of this series - for closer casting to 40 feetDICKERSON 7613 L - very nice all-round trout taper, full, medium fast actionDICKERSON 7613 M - quick, full dry fly rod - nice to have when the hatch startsDICKERSON 7613 H the 6wt, "big gun" of this series, good for big flies, streamers, $ 1750us w/one tip $ 1950us w/two tips $ 2150us w/three (or all 3pc 2tip rods) $ 2350us w/full set of four tips in all actions. Casting range allows for some delicacy up close and personal, to the times that you want to reach out and touch someone a bit further away. And this set of conditions is very narrow. I would specifically urge all to look at the graphs. 0.160 Bill said that the book he has written on the subject is going to the printers and should be out soon.. (No financial interest.) I've fished mine from a drift boat on the Green river and had great success. When fishing bamboo for trout I believe the "best" length is an 8 foot rod. That has compensation for the ferrule and the Varnish & Guides. Starting at a tip dimension specific to a given line weight you add diameter to the length of the rod in linier increments until you reach the rod length you want. 0.288 (Robin Haywood), I consider a 7 1/2-ft. 5wt. As we all know, rods can often cast line weights one up and down from their designated ones. The 6611 has a swelled butt unlike many versions I've seen and is an especially sweet rod. 7613: 7'6" 2/2 5 wt. I thought it was in there, but I didn't have the link, and the CD I got from Lowell is at home. About a week ago I was fishing the hex hatch on a certain small Wisconsin stream for the first time in many years, with a 7.5 ft 5wt, and actually wished I had a much shorter rod, given the overhanging trees. and .360@45. Whether you're picking out your very first fly-fishing rod or coming in for a new modern fly reel after years out on the water, Sportsman's Warehouse can supply you with the very best fly-fishing equipment. Bamboo fly rod Dickerson 7012 taper 7ft 4wt 2/2. (Gary Nicholson), The chap is obviously of unsound mind as the Perfectionist is IMHO one of the all time worst taper rods out there. (David Zincavage), I wouldn't turn down a couple of each for crackers. We're committed to providing a safe, comfortable environment for our travelers. by oldfishbrain 06/19/16 10:39, Post An 861711 would be an 8 1/2' three piece, with the butt-to-mid ferrule being a size 17, and the mid-to-tip ferrule being a size 11. I would suggest you should RESPECT the man (as well as EC Powell and others) who made contributions to providing us all with tools to understand and continue to develop taper design (Hexrod being one, a powerful and easily applied tool, I believe based on Garrison's math). So now where do you add or subtract material and what effect will it have on the rod. I would agree that one system is not all encompassing and I agree with the selection of evaluating criteria you outlined. 15 .128 .278 Chris' rod is also an 861711D. Using too small a ferrule may be a factor. Garrison would have like straight line stress/strain results for the same reason Richard Walker did. 75 0.2855 Should be a very nice rod, good Taper. I was contemplating a rod with a 3.5 ft tip section and interchangeable butt sections of maybe 2, 3 and 4 ft lengths. They did not understand that a slow taper pole will bend near the point of grip under stress, whereas a fast taper will bend increasingly towards the tip as the rate of taper increases. .but like most opinions you will find that many on this list (and in the world at large) are not going to agree with you. (Greg Reeves). (Paul Blakley), I use the taper in Maurer's book, which is the same as Wane C's, which supposedly came from Young's mill. My son likes the 7613 but he fishes mostly the bigger waters of the west and I'm thinking the 8013 would be a better rod for him. As Will predicts, this is a very pleasant and easy rod to cast. I'm satisfied with my bamboo fly rod, even though the female metal Ferrule opening was a little big and the male ferrule on the second section would slip out after a few cast. This board is for discussing the repair and restoration of bamboo fly rods, makers discussion and construction techniques relating to same. To all of them and their contemporaries we are grateful . The Garrison tip would be .078, B-9 tip would be .059, and a fast .018/5" drop a tip of .035. 2 piece. Any rod with a straight taper under load will feel to a greater or lesser extent, unnecessarily heavy in the tip and too soft in the butt. (Matthew French), Different rods, the 8014 is a true 6wt, the 8014G (G stands for guide) is a heavier rod, a point and shoot, no false cast, lay out a ton of line type rod. Do any rod makers sells rods they do not like? It also is fine on smaller streams. Over the time I have made rods. All through this process you must be aware of the stress curves as well, you don't want to make changes that will cause a rod to fail. In fact, as the requirements of a stream rod are very simple, this is what we do. Dickerson rods have the charm of being different (and scarce). Dickerson was a self-taught rodmaker who designed his own rod-milling and planing equipment. Regarding Chris Bogart's Dickerson. Garrison's tapers may have been all right in his day, for the equipment and applications he was designing for, i.e. You don't find a need for a 7'6" 5wt on your streams. Crisp, strong, smooth, versatile. 0.111 25 0.1405 I own a Thramer 6611 and 7012 HB tapers, both with Thramer cosmetics and they are both awesome rods. The 7613 is a wonderfully versatile taper, the rod is light in the hand, and is at home casting sizes #6 Muddlers to #16 Dry flies. Good luck. I deducted .005 for the varnish. (Robin Haywood). 0.292 The trouble is, that's all it does! Then the part of the ferrule that fits on the bamboo inside the male slide 'stepped down' to .187" ID, or 12/64. Because of subjective issues like feel and personal prejudices, not to mention fashion, we "adjust" this a bit in fishing rods. OK, the rod was a Paul Young Perfectionist. 95 0.3435 (Tom Bowden). Can you direct me to where I can find more information on this? Howell says "they are just different" in his book, but I am looking for something bit more specific. More than an eight weight is required to handle the largest of flies. Hence the short butt long tip "BSAS" conformation of some of the better iterations. 0.120 For each size ferrule there is a specific range of dimensions that will fit inside each size. in practice however, there is little point in going below 7'6'', really. (Will Price). 0.369 Why do you think a7'6" rod is short for a #5 ? But if you really like Dickerson tapers (i sure do) then getting a good maker to whip up his version of that taper while using his personal cosmetics would be my first choice. It will be one of the rods in what I am calling my Basic Reference Taper set. I would love to have the opportunity to cast my perfectionist (or any one of the several I've made for people) against any 7 1/2-foot 5-weight of his choice and compare line speed, distance, accuracy, or any other criterion he would like. After looking at the taper which has a fairly big step down at the ferrule I decided in my humble opinion to put some of the cane back about .01". Ralph Tuttle did the actual spreadsheet work. But all right is not a euphemism for excellent. I'm probably going to have to find a use for one as it happens as a design for a 7'6'' #4 that is nearing ringing looks a bit beefy for a #4. As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. Daryll Whitehead would be another good choice. I would be interested to hear Bob Norwood's approach on this issue. (Bob Norwood). I finally made one for my wife and cut one into 4 pieces for me. (Dennis Higham). The butt dimension at the ferrule is too large to fit in a 13/64. First found in the United States in 2014 in southeastern Pennsylvania, spotted lanternfly has spread rapidly through the eastern states. 0.168 3 wt 0.0638 The rod action will not resemble a straight line taper any longer. Narrow steam but very exposed and windy thus needing a #5 line? Measure over original varnish. As Lou points out, it is nicest with the kind of ferrule Dickerson made himself. by FWdB 05/08/09 03:32, Post The stepdown in the female is from a 14/64 ID where the ferrule goes over the bamboo to 12/64 ID where it accepts the male slide. Besides that, he's extremely knowledgeable about Dickerson, is the present owner of the Dickerson rod shop, and has an extreme reverence for Lyle's creations and tapers. They tend to be slightly faster action than the classic designs on which they were based. (Peter Jones), If you "Put some cane back" in the bottom eighteen inches or so of the top joint you will have removed most of my objections. Its a very useful exercise. Except for where the swell begins, the butts are similar as well. Now you have a rod in the length, line weight and number of section you want. . 0.093 Summers & Co. - Womens Sports ApparelBob with Granddaughter Cara FlyfishingGreat Brown, Rainbow and Cutthroat Fly FishingOutdoor Writer and Used Book SalesFishing and Wing Shooting Guide ServiceGreat Lakes Charter FishingSporting JewlerCustom GunsmithingFine Hand EngravingFine Reel & Rod Cases, 90 River Road, EastTraverse City, Michigan 49696 USAPhone/Fax (231) 946-7923bobsummers@charter.net, 2222 - 7. Worked well enough for me to pass the test. 6 wt 0.0752 3 months after I had the guy back on the phone asking me to make another one as its the best rod he has ever had. The same can be said for the EC Powell taper in Hexrod (the 7'6" 2pc 6wt in the archives) which IS A B-9 TAPER; just look at the average slope from stations from the 80" mark thru 0". Springcreek, the 8013 you have listed. Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods. I've mostly used it for bass. A straight line taper could be arbitrary, but in this case it is very specific to line weight. Strong tip; butt has flex area from 45" to 80" then a butt swell at 80". I always use Super Z, but I am not really into creating exact reproductions. As a general rule, a 12/64 gives you a four weight, a 13/64 a five, 14 or 15 a six. Dickerson 8615 - 8.5ft 2pc 7wt Posted by Gary Lohkamp,15 Jan 1997. I like 8013's. If you are looking for a Dickerson rod or have one that you would like to sell please contact us. by LeeO 05/26/17 07:47, Post The tips look essentially the same. The mid sections are very different. Just as the "super Z's" have a female barrel that is 2/64's larger than the bamboo sleeve or male insert, it is the same, but opposite with the Dickerson style "stepped" ferrules. by canerodscom 05/09/09 02:32, Post If you 'hide' columns you can then compare and easily see differences in any combination of selected rod tapers. by cutthroattroutnm 05/09/09 16:50, Post .334@35 0.266 This is because the laws of physics don't tend to change much. 70 0.261 133729 Lyle Dickerson oft written about little powerhouse of a rod. In reading my post the tone seems a little harsh. 0 .326 .180 The top snake guide on the butt has a bit of a bend to it. 0.220 It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. by Mike McGuire 06/16/16 23:29, Post 0.350 The conversion file will convert tapers for Solid and Fluted rods for quad, penta, hepta, and oct construction. Dennis looked over his rod and it, too, has two nodes right next to each other. I'm not sure why you don't like Garrison, nor his tapers, but you can have your own opinions as can everyone else. 2023 Spinoza Rod Company. As to my question about the ferrules is, your rods say, e.g. I love the 7612 Taper. For the tip section use the smaller number and for the butt section use the larger number. I have never seen an actual inch by inch measure and measure for ferrules listed that I felt was more reliable than this. 60 0.242 In fact, if you want to design a cane "Parabolic" which will perform as Ritz wanted all you have to do is choose a tip taper you fancy and plonk it out on the end of a fast taper hollow built butt of whatever length you fancy. The best reason that I can give you as to why Dickersons are popular tapers (Along with another Michigan maker Paul Young) is that they are nice casting rods and fit our fishing very well. It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. (Henry Mitchell), In Dickerson-speak, it would be a size 13 on the butt, and a 12 on the tip. They would be, Heavy butt section, Light butt section, heavy tip, light tip, Parabolic (heavy in the middle) and the hinge (light in the middle). What physical characteristics make a taper roll cast well. 4070 Main Street, I just fished them both side by side on the Green River. Yes, there are specific applications for a 7'6" 5wt here in Michigan. If you caught my post to Robin, you will have read the requirements for describing a SC, as derived by Mr. Everett Garrison in his book. They were severely inhibited by several difficulties. 0.369 Of course a SLT is never a SLT unless it's a one piece no Varnish & Guides rod, once we add things we change the effective taper. 90 0.296 157251. (Gordon Koppin), If I might ask: Which Perfectionist taper do you favor? Your statement that "if you want to make overweight rods with unnecessarily heavy tips and relatively floppy butts then straight tapers will deliver. 35 0.1695 Don't leave us hangin' here with a sniper shot and leave ;-) (Mark Wendt), Truth be known, I prefer Payne to Dickerson. First, no one casts the same. The part of the ferrule that fits over the bamboo on the tip section (male ferrule) had the same exact inside diameter of .221" INITIALLY! I believe he told me he placed his roll casting hinge 10"-15" above the handle, depending on rod length. Consider one or the other of these two if your rod maker intends to fit the rod with step down ferrules, since there is a .010" step down across the ferrule stations. Here are the numbers someone else posted earlier this year for the Dickerson 8014 GS. In the upper left corner, in blue, you'll see the real measurements we took, for all 3 flats at each measurement point. 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